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that could take place as a result of congress failing to reach a debt deal. even the defense secretary said the cuts could be staef dating. does that hurt the president in the vet community? >> number one, congress must act and avoid sequestration op any of these defense cuts. number two, you know, governor romney seems to confuse the defense budget from the veterans budget. what i have spent the last several months talking about is the president's, not just his decisiveness as a what happeneder and chief and what a strong leader he's been and going after al qaeda around the world and eliminating osama bin laden from the face of the earth, but also honoring the commitment to veterans. you know, mitt romney, as you well know, spent his entire convention speech accepting his party's nomination to be commander in chief and didn't mention those serving in what will be america's longest war in afghanistan and didn't mention veterans once. his website didn't mention veterans until sometime this summer. the president has made sure we've honored our commitment to veterans, increased funding for vet
into effect. i mean, every step of the way romney has been on the defensive. >> you and have i talked about this before. he lost the summer, he lost the conventions, he lost the month of september and he can't afford to lose the debates. the obama people were very smart, went out there right away with the bain ads. he defined romney. he had no defense. his only defense was i made free enterprise. he suddenly became the opposite of what ronald reagan was to those reagan democrats. rightly or wrongly those reagan democrats thought romney had understood them, had come from a family a lot like theirs and cared about them. it's okay to be rich. it's not okay to be the candidate of the rich, for the rich, by the rim. >> there are big moments in everybody's campaign. and romney's 47% remark may be his. and todd akin is at the center. ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a reason to look twice. the entirely new lexus es and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. his morning starts with arthritis pain. and two pills. afternoon's overhaul starts with more pain. more pills. triple
and hasn't given us spiecifics, lets be fair. >> mitt romney is the defense lawyer in the courtroom, he's going to say the prosecution, president obama, hasn't made his case, his record isn't enough for re-election and i'll not give all the details of what i'll do, what a romney presidency would mean, make your choice based on the president, that's your plan? >> what is the plan is that the public will have plenty of detail and information to make a judgment on governor romney and what his plan is for the future. but let's look at what the president is saying as well. you're right, the president has had four years to lay this out and now a campaign. and the president just trying to run out the clock. he desperately wants to run out the clock with platitudes which sound nice and i give him that. the president is very good at that. but in the end, i think that both sides have to look at this campaign and say, what are we going to lay out over the next 36 days and that's i think what's really important. and i think governor romney will lay out some very important points over the next 36 da
's dealing with them every day. didn't know how to frame the attack, frame the defense and he didn't do that well in his first debate with john kerry. i think exactly the same thing here. with obama sitting in those meetings saying i know this stuff, i deal with it all the time, but he hadn't been forced in a debate setting to say these are the offensive argument, defensive arguments these are the three points i want to make and i think that was part of his problem. >> i think one of sort of malpractice moments, the most obvious was the two-minute closing statement. you're a speechwriter, you're a columnist now, you prepare presidents. how does he not have a narrative? we talk about narratives and it becomes slangy, but telling a story, with a start, middle and end and he had a two-minute closer that sounded as chris mathews said, memorably, sounded like a concession speech. you know, i'm not a perfect man, i've made mistakes, i'm sure mitt romney would say i've made mistakes how is that the opening line of your two-minute closer? >> yeah. >> that he carried into the closing statement.
to visit the actual scene of the crime due to security concerns. secretary of defense leon panetta yesterday said there was no doubt terrorists were responsible. >> as we determined the details of what took place there and how that attack took place that it became clear that there were terrorists who had planned that attack. and that's when i came to that conclusion as, again, as to who was involved, what specific groups were involved, i think the investigation that is on going. >> the romney campaign ramped up its criticism of the president's response to those attacks claiming the administration overstated the influence of an anti-islam youtube film in order to draw folk us away from security short falls. and the man behind the anti-islam film which sparked protests throughout the muslim world is under arrest this morning in california. 55-year-old is arrested. he is accused of violating his probation. as part of a probation deal, he was barred from using computers on the internet without special permission. a term he is now suspected of breaking. a federal judge denied him bail c
on target than the romney campaign. he needs to put obama on the defensive and needs to remake his image. i think he needs a long strategy through all the debates. i'm not sure he can do all he needs to do in one debate. >> it's so great to have both of you here. come back. thank you. >>> lockheed martin and other defense contractors agreed to a white house request not to give lay-off notices to employees days before the election in november. those companies are anticipating thousands of lay-offs because of defense budget cuts and they are required to give workers 60 days notice. it's highly unlikely any budget cuts will be decided on before the election. the administration argues that pink slips should not go out because of "uncertainty." republicans are expressing outrage saying the administration strong armed the industry to cover up job losses. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. constipated? yeah. mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they h
dog. put the president on the defensive. >> let me bring in jason chaffitz from utah. the question about the 47%. we saw in our "wall street journal" poll. talk about things that make people feel one way or another about the candidate. this has had a very negative effect. this statement mitt romney made on the voting public, so how does he answer that question about the 47%? because to say that i want to be the president for the 100% clearly has not resognated. >> well, look, mitt romney was the very first person to say he wasn't very eloquent in the way he said that, but i think when he can look the president in the eye, the american people in the eye and say he's taking on this role and trying to become the president of the united states because he wants us all to succeed, people are going to have to judge for themselves. that's the mitt romney i know. that's why i think mitt romney's running. not to get the 1% to move ahead, but so that everybody can move ahead. create economic opportunity in this country. >> it does seem, based on the video and the video alone, they have made a
job losses were coming if congress and the president go through with the defense cuts called sequestration. >> the impact will be immediate and significant here in virginia. 136,000 jobs will be lost in virginia as a result of this move. >> and though romney wanted to focus on defense cuts, he couldn't avoid questions on the 47% comment. he was forced to defend himself in a series of local television interviews. >> is there a clarification you would offer to voters about what you meant? >> my campaign is about 100% of americans. my whole effort in running for president is to help those people that are struggling the most. this campaign and frankly my presidency if i become president is about helping people in the middle class have a better chance of making ends meet. >> of course, the president is hammering romney on the 47% remark. he is on the air with the third ad on the comment and it is brutal. it is the second time the president put out an ad narrated by romney. the first was america the beautiful ad. look at the new one. >> 47% of the people will vote for the president
of the defense sequester that somehow is protected it's not pro tented as you were pointed out last night. >> there is -- i sort of felt like because the romney campaign has been so absent on issues of natural security, substantive issues of national security beyond just name calling i feel like the campaign should be encouraged now that they have tried to talk about veterans issues. there are huge issues with the disability claims but also other elements of the v.a.'s performance in terms of this current generation of veterans and older generations of vets and romney in trying to go there, in virginia this week, showed he didn't even understand the issue he was trying to make political hay out of. the problem of suicides among veterans and says a solution is he won't cut military spending in the sequester. you know, i don't think he knows what the relationship of the v.a. funding is to the sequester. i'm not sure he knows that paul ryan voted for that sequester or that at this point wars are the way you make new veterans if he's threatening new wars in iran and syria the way he's been so
before about how obama has that tendency sometimes anyway when he's on the defensive to come off as a little kocondescending. how much of debate prep is hones in on an appropriate attitude and tone to take, and how do you fix that? >> you're exactly right. there's a fine line to walk there. those are my points. i wouldn't necessarily say exactly get out of being president. the point is to at once convey the seriousness and the clarity of purpose and the sense of command that americans expect from their president while at the same time being accessible and not arrogant and being frankly okay with being questioned, being okay with being challenged. >> do you admit to mistakes? is that a good tactic in debates? >> i think you do if they're mistakes you believe you ought to admit to. you know, it's an odd hypothetical to answer. i mean, i ran the edwards campaign. edwards said the vote for the iraq war was a mistake. that was probably a good thing for him to do. does that mean carte blanche? no. >> of course not, no. >> jonathan, quickly your former speech writer for president clinto
about that? >> they did put out a spokesman in defense of ambassador -- statement in defense of ambassador susan rice yesterday. it stems from a couple of sundays ago. she was on some of the sunday shows, including "meet the press" where she gave that explanation that this protest in benghazi started off as a protest against an american installation there, about that anti-islam video that denigrated the prophet mohammed and then spontaneo spontaneously turned into something more and may have included elements of more organized elements. and that's something that republicans say that susan rice intentionally lied about, the spokesman saying last night from the white house, the administration has -- thinks that susan rice has done an extraordinary job. it was not her personal opinion that she was putting forth on those sunday shows. >> all right. mike viqueira. thank you very much for that. important story this morning. >>> to front page politics new this morning, mitt romney says he's looking forward to the upcoming presidential debates, first one's on wednesday. >> i think it
. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> flashpoint libya, the white house on the defensive after reports of both security and intelligence nurse in benghazi before that terror attack. >> standing up, sitting down. >> which ever one you like. >> there you go. >> do whatever they tell us. >> the white house line is you heard the president say, osama bin laden is dead, al qaeda is done, everything is fine in the middle east. this, obviously, contradicts -- ther series of events contradicts that campaign slogan. so, the fact is, that this was clearly an act of terror committed by people who were pretty well trained jihadists. >> more carnage in afghanistan. the taliban take responsibility for a suicide attack that killed 14 today including three americans. we are deployed in the hot spots today with lester holt live in afghanistan and ann curry on the syrian border. >>> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington, days away from thes first presidential debate in denver where mitt romney and barack obama will be trying to reach a shrinking pool of undecided voters. joining me for
, blah. suppose obama goes on the attack tonight. suppose he surprises everybody and doesn't play defense. he doesn't try to handle his opponent and clinch, that he really goes and tries to put him away. and i think that's the significanti i significanting question. how does romney deal with the fact that he has no spontaneity? no ability to deal with the unexpected? how does he deal with that in the debate for an hour and a half? so will obama go after the guy, not play defense, not finesse the guy, knock him out and end this thing. and will the other guy be able to deal with the unexpected, which perhaps will be obama coming after him, not him coming after obama. >> chris, when you talk about the president potentially going after mitt romney, do you mean in terms of stylistic aggression, or do you means in terms of trying to nail him as a flip-flopper or going really aggressively against his policies. which do you mean? >> i would say this. you are promising something new. you keep saying i've got something new. everything you've said sounds like what we got rid of because we had a disa
-- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is you lose the lead. and i can't for the life of me believe that that's what they did, but that's the only explanation. they told the president, don't be confrontational. they told the president, be above it all, act presidential. but the one thing that gets me when i was running for re-election as mayor and when i was running for re-election as governor and even d.a., i had a passion for what we'd accomplished. i had a passion to explain where we didn't ak plir something, why we didn't, what the road blocks were, and he could have done that without being aggressive, without being snarky towards governor romney. but he could have said, governor, you haven't been there. i'm in this office and when i took over, the nation's financial structure was about to collapse. i did some very difficult things and it turned this country's fate around. we've added jobs
and then a choice of how do you defend your policies. what we saw him unveil in defense of the tax cuts on wednesday night was identical to the bush defense of the tax cuts which gave paul krugman an aneurysm writing two clumolumns week saying this is bs. george bush would say are you kidding? cut taxes for the wealthy that's not what i'm interested in doing. >> sort of the explanation of mitt romney is more what andrew sullivan has said, that he's just a salesman. so if he's in front of audience a, the sell is this. if he's in front of audience b, the sell is that and he's doing marketing proposals for whatever audience is in front of them because the real mitt romney is just a businessman and willing to sell the product to whoever it is, whether left, right, thought of being an ultraliberal would get him to be president he would say that. i just need the 51% i need, get me what i need. >> now he cares about the 100% and channeling the specter of h.w. bush and adopting the trickle down government line which to me, howard, you can explain this to everybody, to me that was do i end up with the depart
smith, an 18-yard strike. the past decade the ravens had one of the best defenses in the league and here is why. kerry williams picked off weedon, 65 yards the other way, baltimore went on to win it. >>> the players have been locked out for 13 days in the nhl and yesterday the league canceled the preseason. the two sides meet today in new york. >>> baseball, rangers play-off bound, beat oakland to clinch the al west. a home run and three rbis. they won it 9-7. then you have the white sox in the middle of a late september collapse. evan longoria and the rays won it 3-2. the sox dropped 8 of 9. chicago's loss is detroit's game. doug fister made american league history, struck out nine straight. tigers held on to win it 5-4. >>> and finally, the mets r.a. dickie picked up the 20th win of the year. everybody is talking about travis snyder. a shot deep to ride. snyder tracked it down. scaled the fence like spiderman and made the grab. cool, calm and collected. snyder hauled it in. that is not only the catch of the day, that is the catch of the year. that's your "first look" at sports. have a
foreign policy speech days after the debate. over the weekend, the white house was on the defensive after the friday's announcement that the deadly assault on the u.s. consulate in bengahzi was deliberate and organized. peter king of new york called on susan rice to resign as u.s. ambassador to the united nations after she initially claimed the attack on the consulate was part of the spontaneous protest after an anti-islamic video. yesterday paul ryan and john mccain slammed the administration's handling of the deadly attack. >> the response was slow, confused, inconsistent. they first said it was a youtube video and a spontaneous mob. we now know it was a planned terrorist attack if this was one tragic incident that would be a tragedy in itself. the problem is it's part of a bigger picture that the obama foreign policy is unraveling before our eyes on tv screens. >> i think it interferes with the depiction that the administration is trying to convey that al qaeda is on the wane, everything is fine in the middle east. >> you think it's political? >> how else could you trot out our u.n. am
. ronald reagan lost most of that debate. he was on the defensive. jimmy carter was attacking him. and then he had this positively brilliant close about are you better off? and he did it so well. peter hart did a bunch of focus groups before and after. clearly reagan had a lower threshold. he had to prove to people he was acceptable. >> that's what mitt -- you're describing mitt romney. you're describing mitt romney because voters -- >> voters don't have the kind of negatives. he did not have 51% of people having an unfavorable view. secondly, you could say mitt romney is as good a debater all you want. gipper against mitt romney when it comes to charm, people saying i want to have this guy on television for four years, it's no contest. >> willie, following up on what mike barnicle said, the one thing mitt romney has going for him is who he is running against. there are a lot of republicans that voted for barack obama that are disappointed. there are a lot of independents that voted for obama who are disappointed. there are a lot of conservatives who don't want to vote for them th
. and that's on offense. then you think about what he has to do on defense. he's going to be on the defense on the 47%. he's going to be on defense on his tax question. i mean, this is a guy who doesn't have very much to work with at this point. so it's hard for me to see, even if he doesn't make a major gaffe, which he does on a weekly basis, even if he doesn't, what ammunition does he have to actually have a good showing? >> i'm told there are examples of elections turning on debates, president bush for example started gaining on al gore when they faced off in 2000. is it usually the case that debates are quite the kind of game-changer that everybody thinks this one has to be for romney to do anything successfully in november? >> no, it's not. the historical data shows that i think we sort of exaggerate the role of debates. i would tip my hat to the washington monthly that has a nice article that goes through some of the political science and polling on this. it says they have a marginal impact. one notable exception was the 2000 debates between bush and gore where it appears gore pllo tw
due respect, but he also can't let that put him into a defensive posture where he doesn't -- i agree with karl rove, actually call out the president's policy. so i wouldn't phrase it as calling out the president, but calling out the president's policies. if he has a substantive debate about the president's economic policies and what has happened with them, then i think he stays in a very safe territory. >> richard, the obama campaign going pretty far to lower expectations over the past couple of weeks. a recent report on air force one, one of the traveling press secretaries asked by reporters what is the worst thing that could happen on wednesday night. her response, quote, well, he could fall off the stage. she we replied of the president. what do we expect from president obama in denver? is he going to be sharp or is he going to be rusty? >> look, i think he is going to be plenty sharp. remember, mitt romney spent all those debates, the 23 where everybody said he won 19 of them debating within a pretty narrow window ideologically. barack obama has been dealing with people all acros
the course of the next four years. >> and in terms of the defense that he has to play, the romney team are attacking him for not creating a budget, in three years, of course the argument the counter argument would be the republicans for three out of the four years were in charge and -- at least one house, and were blocking him in the senate. but they will come at him on the economy. what is the response going to be? >> well look, i think the president -- the response obviously is two fold. let's talk about where we've come from, losing 800,000 jobs a month to 30 plus months of positive private sector job growth, added 5 million jobs, you know, since we hit the bottom and -- but i think what's most important and voters want to hear is what you going to do as president going forward and i think the president will be anxious to talk about bringing manufacturing jobs back from overseas and putting americans back to work, improving our educational system, recruiting and training math and science teachers to get our children prepared for those important jobs. >> those are goals. those are go
. it is illegal for private stens to own guns for self-defense in eight states and the number is growing with increasing democratic control of state legislatures and govships. wrong. again, the second amendment is still intact and the number of new gun laws enacted by the obama administration adds up to exactly zero. finally, the prediction about how the president would respond to captured terrorists. quote, terrorists captured overseas are given full trials in the u.s. court system, and they have to be allowed access to a number of government secrets to prepare their defense. well, actually government secrets to prepare a defense, i don't think so. here is a secret for you, the top terrorist, osama bin laden, is dead. >>> no doubt if the president wins re-election those and other far right scenarios will get a new luster for the second term. because fantasy leads to more fantasy. >>> up next, the big debate last night between elizabeth warren and scott brown. well, who won that one? that was a top of the card. who lost and what does it mean for the battle sfor the senate? you're watchin
the president on the defensive about the last four years. he's got to adopt a tone, which is aggressive but at the same time respectful of the president, appropriately aggressive. you know, he's going to make sure he stays in economic issues and something he knows something about. the problem with romney's record is, he's taken almost every side of every issue in american politics. and if he has to be -- if he's made accountable for it, i think people will figure out very quickly th quickly, this guy has one for everyone in the politics. >> wes, national review reports on a plan to retool romney for debates. romney advisers have simply -- have a simple strategy. they want their candidate to balance his finely tuned arguments with personal warmth. he can retool it and can someone who's come off kind of aloof come off warm and fuzzy? >> i think gov more romnernor r trying to square away in his own head. when people can get a real gauge as to who you are and where you stand on things. and i think governor romney, this is also coming off the heels of two different things, this debate. one,
-- they need to be a little aggressive. they need to take -- >> what's the best defense? >> good offense. >> i would recommend the president. why did the cavalry leave the fort to fight the indians? do you know why? >> why. >> they're cavalry. thank you. >>> coming up, we have a new scoreboard. not like in the old days but spinners will be there. let's watch the power of the tweeter, the twitter, what's going to happen? we'll have people talking about real life, in time, while it's actually happening telling us who's winning this thing and which candidate did a better job framing the argument, deflecting criticism. we'll look at body language, too. how they stand, what they look like. caught on tape, running mate's edition yesterday. the tou"the huffington post" qu paul ryan as saying conservatives wanted 30%. that's going to be in the debate. running mates are causing some headaches for the presidential candidates. >>> also, have i some questions of my own for the candidates. i'm going to ask michael steele and eugene robinson to fill in for obama and romney and let me ask my "hardball" quest
on defense. >> i don't know what he was doing out there. he had his head down, he was enduring the debate rather than fighting it. the latest thing we got from romney because he said so, was, you know what i want to do with people when they are poor? shove them in the emergency room. where was obama tonight? >> progressives from chris matthews to bill maher to michael moore all across the progressive wing of the democratic party, there's great disappointment. >> they were jumping out of their seats watching. >> i understand. i understand there was a hunger for us to attack romney more personally than the president did last night. >> bottom line, romney scores, but was last night the first to game-change his campaign and what they sorely needed? >> the only loophole he had enough courage to mention last night was big bird and public broadcasting. >> i think governor strickland was watching a different debate from me and the american people. >> yeah, big bird got hit by the bus last night. joining me is ed schultz, good to have you here. i was watching you last night, your immediate reactio
, distracted and defensive. what happened? >> i mean n a word, he blew it. it is not the same as blowing a campaign. i think part of it was expectations and romney did much better than expectations. but beyond that, he let romney get away with accusing him of being the one who is undecided on big banks, on being the one who would let people lose their health insurance, of being the one who didn't care about the little guy. and essentially obama didn't push back. he didn't whack him. i think that's going to have to change in future debates. >> one of the questions going into this was how aggressive would mitt romney be. and he challenged a lot. let me play just a little clip to get your take. >> and congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most romantic place you could imagine here with me. you said you would get a deduction for taking a plant overseas. look, i have been in business for 25 years, i have no idea what you're talking about. i maybe need to get a new accountant. >> the question a lot of people asked, republicans particularly are, where
a 5 trilli$5 trillion. -- another $2 trillion in defense spending. >> just three days into the first presidential debate, meanwhile mitt romney is off to the trail. we have two reports, we begin with nbc's peter alexander, he's with the romney campaign in boston, with a good morning to you, peter. what are you hearing about all the debate preps today. he o'clock najs that this is an important opportunity in her debate. people have a tendency to focus on the small things, like the color of a candidate's tie or the dramatic one liners, which is his need to get across the big picture message. he says if he does that, he thinks he can be effective over the course of the next three debates and ultimately win this thing. we heard this morning from governor chris christie of new jersey, i want to play you another clip from new jersey this morning. chris christ >> and so they're going start tuning in on wednesday night and when they do, governor romney's going to lay out his vision for a better and greater america and better opportunity for all of our citizens, and i think that's when you're
faced off under the monday night lights except the cowboys' offense was no match for chicago's defense. dallas quarterback tony romo threw five interceptions. two were returned for touchdowns. first in the second quarter on a pass intended for dez bryant, look at him go. that's picked by charles tillman and returned for six. and again in the third, just after dallas forced a chicago fumble. romo gives the ball right back to lance briggs who returns it 74 yards for the touchdown. bears won it 34-18. >>> on to baseball. the yankees crushed the red sox 10-2 last night. four yankee homers including a two-run bomb by returning first baseman mark teixeira. it capped off a nine-run second inning. and with an orioles' loss to the rays, the yanks took a one-game lead in the a.l. east. a lot of happy people here today. >>> in kansas city, detroit's miguel cabrera had four hits including a homer during a five-run sixth inning to help the tigers beat the royals 6-3 and claim the a.l. central title. >>> and finally, it's always time for champagne. despite losing to the phillies last night, the nati
. that sets up bradford's seven-yard touchdown pass to lance rekendricks. this time on defense. kevin kolb planted by robert quinn. one of three sacks for quinn last night. the rams did sack kolb nine times in the game. rams up 10-3. bradford scanning, scanning. finds a wide open chris gibbons for the touchdown. the rookie strolls in 51 yards. bradford only completed seven passes in the game. two of them went for touchdowns. that one put the rams up 17-3. that would be the final. cardinals unable to muster any offense at all. they fall to 4-1. rams now above the .500 mark at 3-2. texas and falcons now the nfl's only undefeated teams. >>> in baseball, where in perhaps the least surprising move of the season, bobby valentine was let go from the red sox after one season as manager. not a lot of cards in the deck for bobby, granted. their record, 69-93. the worst since 1965. gave the red sox their first last place finish in the division since john henry and tom warner took over ownership 11 years ago. valentine sparred with everyone from players to reporters. he now has the distinction of bein
. >>> finally over the weekend republicans kept the white house on the defensive. after the friday announcement from the director of national intelligence, talk about a 5:00 news dump, that the deadly assault on the u.s. consulate in benghazi was, in fact, deliberate and organized. on friday peter king called on ambassador susan rice to resign saying, quote, the fact is she gave out information which was either intentionally or unintentionally misleading and wrong and there should be consequences for that. called her, quote, an enormously capable person. in an unusual statement on friday, the office of the director of national intelligence explained the changing description of the events of the attack, quote, in the immediate aftermath, there was information that led us to aseventy that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in cairo. as we learned more about the attack, we revised our initial assessment to reflect new information indicating that it was a deliberate and organized terrorist attack carried out by extremists. the administrations appeared
to the military. the secretary of defense has said these would be devastating. i will not cut our commitment to our military. i will keep america strong and get america's middle class working again. thank you jim. >> thank you governor, thank you mr. president. >> the next debate will be on thursday october 11th. for now from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer, thank you and good night. >> that's the end of the first presidential debate between governor romney of massachusetts and president obama. you see both men being greeted by their wives on stage. even this portion of the debate is negotiated ahead of time by the campaigns in terms of which members of their family will be joining them on stage. this is, these these are negotiated down to this level of detail. in terms of how the overall debate unfolded, i personally do not know who won this debate. i do feel that we saw this debate format die a very painful death on camera tonight. the contrast between the candidates was stylistic as much as substantive. president obama i think calm and basically explanatory tonight. governor romn
like his poll is are defensible. >> i'm impressed by governor romney. especially with the hard hit about lack of specifics. >> have any of you now made up your mind? you're still all undecided. >> those stubborn undecided. you can hear more at 11:00 on msnbc. clearly for republicans who were thrilled to be in this room last night, this was a needed shot in the arm. and though the obama campaign has tried to argue romney's aggressive approach, the president governor came off more likable. >> were you satisfied with the performance? >> well, he's never satisfied. he's always challenging himself. >> i do think there's a sense of, you know, a dynamic shift in the campaign. i know there's a lot of talk about the style. governor romney was in command of the facts and had solutions. but he laid out a very clear choice. >> oning the debate is always a two part deal. the night itself and then the aftermath. team obama with pressure to win the aftermath. they will draw attention to specific pledges that are mathematically difficult. his vow to keep any tax proposal deficit neutral. and then
advisers were spinning a bush debate victory, they were on the defensive today about the president's demeanor last night. the television coverage, he appeared at times irritated, dismissive, frustrated by his challenger. >> he's always been a president and a person who wears his emotion on his sleeve. >> reporter: if some in the white house thought it would put this race out of reach, a reality check today. one senior adviser said no one would put the race way in one night. >> this is not who went on with win the eventual election but about who won the first debate. when a sitting president is facing his challenger. in 2004 when the incumbent president george w. bush lost badly to his challenger that year, that pushed the tally for incumbent presidents trying to win first debates against their challengers to 1-5. one win, five losses. in the six times that we had done it before we did it last night. that's the sum total of our american president of putting sitting presidents up against challengers in their first tv debates. that was the record for incumbent presidents and their cha
in defense cuts that his running mate paul ryan voted for, he implied that would hurt suicide prevention programs for veterans even though the v.a. would be exempt from that, so i'm not sure he even understood what it was he was talking about. but at least he tried. at least veterans got a mention from him. even if it didn't make sense in policy terms. you do know that defense and veterans are two different -- at some point it should be possible with 40 days left to say veterans have to be more than just an applause line. right? you don't just get to use them for a photo op like the decommissioned battleship you used as a backdrop when you introduced paul ryan inexplicably in front of a battleship, another time when you didn't mention the war. even if you're not willing to talk about the war we are in that you would be taking over, veterans are not a hypothetical construct. the way they're treated is not an esoteric consequence of how we feel about them as a nation or how much military spending we have which is how mitt romney described it today. 40 days out from the election with the is
it in those swing states. and that's because mitt romney played defense a lot of the first half of this year. whether it was in the primaries or in may, when the primary was finally over, and the obama campaign really started to hit him hard on his bain record. there hasn't an opening or an effective way for him to articulate a vision to turning the economy around. and it shows in the poll numbers. >> lynn, if governor romney can't hang this economy over the president's neck in the next three or four weeks, is there a chance he can beat him? >> of course there is one big blooper from obama, and the mistake may certainly change the trajectory of the campaign. but garrett made a very good point. i want to quickly build on another reason why obama might have dealt with housing today. he's doing his debate prep in a suburb of las vegas. where is he now that it's hard hit? so, again, this is another reason -- a reason he's camped out there, deliberately, so to try to bolster his support in nevada. and again, i think he's just prophylactically building a community around himself, dealing with hous
performances is when he caps a tough defense with a good line. like these against gingrich. >> i spent 25 years in business. if i had a business executive saying they wanted to spend a few hundred billion dollars to put a colony on the moon, i'd say you're fired. did you check your own investments? you also have investments in fannie mae and freddie mac. >> and romney is at his worst when forced to respond to a rebuttal when he's interrupted or when he feels rules have been violated. he saw it in the 2002 debates against shannon o'brien, in 1994 against kennedy and of course, in these primaries. >> mr. romney, the kennedys are not in public service to make money. we have paid too high a price in our commitment to the public service. >> senator kennedy, your question for mr. romney. >> mr. romney -- >> i'm sorry. was it my turn to respond. >> i was going to end it there. >> my suggestion about my comments in utah. let me complete it and you can ask me. >> do you have a problem with allowing someone to finish speaking and i suggest if you want to become president of the united states, you have to
've talked about the offense versus defense. mitt romney was maybe getting back on his feet a little bit and then this comes along and not only is it not an effective tool, it's sort of -- in some ways, makes romney look like a chump, the fact that his own party thinks this is what they need to do. >> well, they need to be -- to win the election it's pretty clear. the president's advisors would tell you they need to be talking about the economy. they went after joe biden for his gaffe on saying the middle class has done poorly under the president, but i think, again, they're trying to do things in this tactical way that just hasn't worked for them so far and i think every day they're not having mitt romney out forcefully explaining what the president has done on the economy, is not a great day for them. now, he's in a better place than a lot of the pundits have suggested but i don't really think they have days to waste on things like this and the backlash against it was so strong. when drudge tees something up, even though he tilts right and even though a lot of people denigrate him, it
will define the debate in this answer, whether he is going to be defensive about it or whether he is going to got offense about it. i think that will probably define the whole debate, because it is going to be about the economy tonight. >> these tapes do matter, at least one tape will matter, and that being the one at the private fund-raiser? >> tamron, what i'm talking about everybody is throwing out the videos, a gotcha moment. i think the voters that matter, the undecided, are not concerned about the videos but the direction of the country. i think at 9:00 tonight, the first time, we are going to see both of these folks on stage giving their personal views on what they want to do with this country. i think that's going to be the moment that matters. >> let me get michael n you talked to people all day around the country. some of those people, conservatives, many i imagine are independents as well. i'm curious, off situation here, i know chip said some people on the other side. but you have the drudge report, the daily caller, some of the biggest voices in conservative television and rad
romney's only defense on that, since i don't think he'll give us specifics, is rhetoric and to make it sound like he has a plan. >> do you agree with that, mike? >> i think both have holes in specifics. the president hasn't been very clear about what he's going to do to social security, to medicare. romney hasn't either but it's not like one candidate totally filled out that ballot. i think this is a situation where mitt romney comes in with a much bigger hill to climb but yet more opportunity. in minds of a lot of people they're thinking of 47%, they're thinking of -- they're thinking of the sort of monty burns car ka tour. what debates are good at are getting through caricatures. this is one time in the cycle we'll get the two candidates standing next to each other and cuts through caricature and the falsehood as well. >> john, part of romney's strategy -- >> reporter: me? >> yes, john. >> reporter: i was going to say, i totally agree with michael. first of all, president obama in several significant areas, like entitlement reform going forward, has also not laid out specifics. bu
in with the pro football players call prevent defense, in basketball it's four corners, fight the clock, pass the ball. and it didn't work. what puzzled me the most is he had opening after opening to dispute what the governor was saying, compared to what he said before, didn't take any of the openings. i'm really puzzled by his performance. he seemed aloof. he'd rather be in a dentist chair than where he was and that translates to body language and facial expressions. i just don't -- can't say what happened to him. all credit to governor romney. got to give him credit. he prepared well. he's in command of what he had. now, question is, does it make a difference? my guess is that it may make some difference. the historical record shows, particularly with first debates when there's more than one, the challenger does well, gets a bump up in a point and a half, two points in the polls. i think this time it may be different. i'll say this, i'm not saying that barack obama's going to lose. but if he loses, we'll look back on last night as the night the tide turned. >> governor rendell, you've been
it looked like to borrow a football team doing a little defense, not too aggressive and above the fray, keep your lead. as we know in politics as well as in football, sometimes when you have a defense, you can give up an easy, quick score. that seemed it to happen last night. you regarded about the lack of fight for president obama. i don't think it was surprising that mitt romney had a good debate performance. a lot of us expected that. i think what surprised everyone was president obama didn't seem up and as energized as mitt romney was. >> i think you're absolutely right on that. this jobs report tomorrow, how might this factor in depending on the information made public? >> right. it was a month ago after the republican convention and after the democratic conventions that republicans were looking to the jobs report to change the subject. now democrats are trying to do the exact same thing. a little note of caution. even though it was a tepid jobs report last time around, that really didn't help mitt romney. if it's a better than expected number, a lot of the commentary is still about las
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